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iPhone + iPod Compatible Alpine Car Stereos

Is iPhone really a substitute for an iPod? To find out, we tested the iPhone with two different iPod-compatible head units by Alpine and were surprised by the results.

This is Steve. Steve is a Mac addict.  

 

 

 

 

 

As a Mac addict, Steve wants to demonstrate the eminent superiority of all things Apple. Waving a brand new iPhone around, it’s easy to talk about how this thin slab of glass is the coolest gadget since Optimus Prime first transformed into a late-model Peterbuilt. But I really wanted to see if this thing could replace my iPod and my Smarphone. To achieve this, it would have to be backward compatible to my iPod compatible Alpine head unit.

 

Steve has the new, higher-end model of the very same head unit. Mine is last year’s iPod compatible CDA – 9853. Steve’s ride totes Alpine’s brand-spankin’-new iPod-Bluetooth-palooza iDA-X001. Both head units come armed with an iPod adaptor kit. This lets us control the iPod from the head unit while charging the iPod.

 

According to reports I found online on Apple's support and on everythingiPhone they should work – as long as you ignore the error messages. Stick the iPhone into Airplane mode to avoid interference through your speakers and presto!

 

Airplane Mode – Check.

 

Try as we might, we just couldn’t get the iPhone to playback in the iDA-X001.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 This error would pop up for only a few seconds if you weren’t in Airplane mode when you tried to connect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

 

Even being in Airplane mode didn’t matter to Steve’s iDA-X001, you just didn’t get any sound. It appeared to be charging the battery of the iPhone but there was just no compatibility.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Over my CDA – 9853, I got sound. Despite the initial error message, everything worked perfectly. The head unit even allowed me to navigate and set to random mix.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sadly, it looks like Steve’s iDA-X001 won’t play back iPhone music through his Alpine stereo anytime soon, at least using its iPod cable. Since it is a Bluetooth device, Steve has another option. iPhone is also Bluetooth ready so he can at least charge the iPhone using the Alpine cable and playing back music over Bluetooth.

 

I decided to do a little more digging about this problem and found out that Alpine has no plans to release any firmware revisions to make their devices iPhone compatible.

 

I contacted Alpine Support to find out what the experts had to say about using their iPod-compatible head units with iPhone. According Alpine engineers, it’s hit or miss and Alpine has no plans to release any firmware revisions to make their devices iPhone-compatible. They feel the onus is on Apple to fix its own backward compatibility. The person I spoke to from Alpine Support Desk intimated that he heard Apple has a fix on the way.

 

So, as beautiful and slick as the iPhone is, it’s not quite ready to replace your iPod just yet.

 

Three Rules To Live By:

  1. Don’t buy a car in its first year of production.
  2. Don’t install version 1.0 of anything.
  3. Avoid paying premium prices to perform beta tests on revolutionary new products for manufacturers.
Published Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:59 AM by Wayde

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Greg Loercher said:

The Alpine iDA-X001 will play back Iphone.  But you have to buy the alpine kce422i Ipod adaptor.  It may not show the album art but you can control it and hear the audio just like a regular Ipod.  We installed one in a customers car a week ago and it's been working fine.  You will still have to turn on the air plane mode. But it does work.

July 20, 2007 5:30 PM
 

Spencer said:

Yeah--I absolutely agree with your rules to live by--especially with Alpine. I purchased the IVA-D300 when it first came out, only to find out that it still abided by redbook audio standards and would only see as many songs on the iPod as can fill the memory of a system typically used to read CDs that typically hold 15 songs. My library (slow to access) pretty much stopped on the letter E for the artists. I was very upset to find that I had paid top dollar just to be a guinea pig for Alpine. Of course, the IVA-D310 works. But I spent the $1800 on the IVA-D300. Never by first gen Alpine products. It goes past this--I purchased the Amp-Link, which was short lived. Very dissappointed with Alpine.

However, it is compatible with the iPhone, in case you were curious.

July 24, 2007 4:10 PM
 

Erik Akerblom said:

My iPhone works perfectly with my Alpine 9856 and Alpine iPod hi speed cable. I don't even have to turn on Airplane Mode. I just say no and it works perfectly. Navigation, sound, playlists, everything.

When a call comes in the music automatically pauses and when I hang up it starts right back up at the same spot.

Perfect.

July 29, 2007 10:54 PM
 

Wayde said:

I'll have to see what kind of adaptor Steve is using. I thought they'd largely be the same for the same head unit. If I can determine what model iPod adaptor Steve's using I'll msg it here in a comment.

July 30, 2007 12:06 AM
 

Piston said:

Apple has just released version 1.0.1 software for the iPhone which fixes all compatibility issues with Alpine products.  Therefore, all 2007 Alpine head units and MM stations are now iPhone compatible as long as the iPhone receives this update.  Here is the link with instructions to load the software update onto the iPhone:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305744

In addition, the iPhone will automatically prompt the user to update the software when connected to iTunes.

Below are the compatible head units:

-iDA-X001, CDE-9870, CDE-9873, CDE-9881, CDA-9883, CDA-9885, CDA-9887, IVA-W205, IVA-D105,

VPA-B222, DVA-9861.

-all 2006 head units and MM stations that are iPod full speed ready

-all units that use the KCA-420i iPod interface (IVA-D310 for example)

August 4, 2007 2:44 PM
 

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October 9, 2007 12:06 PM
 

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November 20, 2007 12:37 AM
 

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About Wayde

Wayde’s super power is fixing electronics by smacking them. Fixing his way through college he repaired TVs - monitors, stereos and even a pinball machine. He was finally defeated by arch nemesis - Planned Obsolescence in issue #280 and now enjoys super-hero retirement as an editor and gadget blogger.