Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

Mikey — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 16:27:47 GMT

John Carmack was probably the first "individual" I remember associated with games all the way back when "Wolfenstein" and "Doom" first launched. Before that I only knew of the big companies. I played Doom for hours and the mods and patches with those games kept it going for a long time. I remember a mod for Wolfenstein that had Pac-Man ghosts chasing you through the levels. I think they could even go through walls!

I have yet to play Doom 3 to any extent since my computer is not powerful enough to play it but I have played it for XBox and I liked it. I did not play it for very long though.

To the comments made in the blog posting it sounds like another hurdle for PS3. PS3 probably could have used some of Mr. Carmack's creations. If he does work with Nintendo I hope they make good use of the Wiimote. The Doom chainsaw with Wiimote action maybe?

re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

Trawler — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:12:12 GMT

PS3 losing, Xbox 360 gaining, and Nintendo getting back on the map... I just love the way this console war is turning out :)

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henry_the_horse — Mon, 15 Jan 2007 23:20:58 GMT

PS3 comments are a bit harsh. I'm glad to see Nintendo is doing good again especially following two of the worst systems ever to be released (N64 & GC). In the end I personally hope to see the Xbox 360 fall on its ass since it never made much sense to give Microsoft room in another market, let alone the video console market.

Sony has too large of an installed bases of PS2s not for those same owners to transfer over to PS3 after time. PS3s launch games looked as good as 360s games released a year into the systems life. The DualShock-style controller design is still the most well received and familiar controller design. Blu-ray will prove to be the turning point for the PS3. For those that don't remember why Nintendo originally lost its number one spot... Sony felt that disc media was the way to go and released the PSX with it, Nintendo thought it wasn't for video games and released the Nintendo 64 with cartridges. Then games such as Final Fantasy VII that were previously N64 exclusive games abandoned ship and went to Sony specifically over size limitations of cartridges. FFVII would have taken 7 cartridges at the time and selling the game would have been outrageously expensive. On CD it ended up being 3 discs. With Blu-ray holding 50gb currently and the quad-layered disc hitting the market in the near future that holds 100gbs, this will blow away the competitors which have media that doesn't hold more than 8.5gb. XBox 360 will never be able to release games in HD-DVD format since it's an add-on.

Nintendo is unique and I think that is selling it more consoles than its price ever will. The one downer for Nintendo here is that some are discovering the limitations of the Wii remote. It doesn't actually track full arm movements, rather it determines motion off of a very small distance (inches) the remote is moved and the speed of that movement. For example in Zelda for Wii you don't have to make a swinging motion, you can shake the controller back and forth only inches to continuously swing. This proves to be more effective than full arm movement and can be applied to any Wii game. Third-party developers still haven't been completely won over by this feature which has began appearing a little gimmicky. Wii will also be limited when huge blockbuster games won't be able to be ported to it do to it having last gen technology. GTA, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, etc, etc, etc will push double digit millions worth of consoles alone for Nintendo's competitors.

Xbox 360. The least unique of the three systems. Its selling point is its power but the PS3 out performs the 360 in every way. $400 isn't a price worth bragging about either, no matter how you spin it. HD-DVD is losing a market edge now that consumers are realizing Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are the same in every way, cost, etc except BR holds significantly more (50gb and soon to be 100gb, while HD-DVD holds 30gb). When both formats cost the same why not choose the one with more space which means longevity in the market and a longer period before consumers are pressured into replacing their movies yet again. 360s still over heats, they still get the red ring of death and are overall known for their defectiveness. The only exclusives for the 360 are First Person Shooters which is a genre that has never sold consoles. The selling point of FPS is only multiply-player and Sony has outdone Microsoft here with the game Resistance. Online, Resistance can have 40 players on one map... no other console FPS touches this. I simply can't find many reasons to buy a 360 over a Wii or PS3.

re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

Lionel — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 14:46:00 GMT

Henry your evidently a Sony Fanboy. Microsoft is easy to program for because it uses the same code as PC's and Sony uses their own coding for games. As for the installed base of PS2's many people are switching from the playstation to the xbox or the wii. Just the other day I was in Walmart and I saw 5 PS3's sitting in the case. This time last year you still couldn't find a 360 sitting on the shelves.

As for HD-DVD vs. Blue Ray well there again you show your lack of knowledge. Yes the blue ray can hold more info but with less compression using MPEG-2. HD-DVD uses better compression in the form of MPEG4 and VR-C compression. They can't even get out double layer discs right now so they are stuck at 25GB. There is also a 51GB HD-DVD disc right now that was shown at CES 2007. Also Blue Ray runs greater risk of being unusable after being scratched because the data is very close to the surface while HD-DVD uses the same distance from the surface as DVD's. Also HD-DVD has discs that you can buy that have a regular DVD side on them so you can watch it on your standard def TV's in other rooms in the House.

To sum it up Henry quit being a sony fanboy and research what your talking about before you post it. Oh and keep letting Sony force you to buy stuff you don't need. I don't need a Blue-Ray to play games or HD-DVD for that matter. If I want to watch movies I'll buy a seperate player so I don't ruin my gaming machine. Hmmm wonder how long the Blue-Ray drive is going to last playing games and movies on it.

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xntrk — Tue, 16 Jan 2007 15:50:30 GMT

Lionel, Henry ... you both provide pro and con points regarding the PS3 and it's relation to marketing, sales, peripherals and the like to XBOX 360. But what I don't agree with is the relationship between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disk and what it has to do with the shear entertainment of watching a movie. For starters, who cares whether or not you use an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray disc to watch the same damn movie, enjoy the friken show and shut up. High Def is High Def. And before all you AV-philes let this fuel the seemingly uncontrollable fire raging within you, hear me out.

To the common consumer, which makes up a large part of the market, how can you tell me that Joe Schmoe is going to be complaining about the amount of "disc space" HD-dvds have over Blu-Ray. Formats are different for a reason, so respect Sony for creating, once again, another proprietary product and packaging their formats in a considerably well put together entertainment hub (referring to the PS3). In my experience, standard formats have always reigned over Sony’s specific formats for obvious reasons: They’re more readily avail at a reasonable cost, there is more third party production and support, and the general variety is just to name a few. It is true what Lionel says about the disc space advantage HD has over BR but I don’t quite agree with the issue revolving around the PS3 playing BR discs and game affecting the life of the system as a whole. Sony just needs to build a solid laser eye. This is just an unbiased view at what the market is overwhelming us with. Formats formats formats. Bullocks!

And on that note, the PS3 is still in it’s infancy so expect good things to come in the futures (if Sony actually follows through wtih this) and XBOX does need to step up with something original. I couldn't care about the numbers, it's all console "racism" to me. As for the media format war, you all can keep you HD and BR statistics in your heads. Joe Schmoe doesn't need to hear it. Me? I’ll just enjoy them for what they’re made for, providing me AV entertainment.

re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

John — Wed, 17 Jan 2007 04:38:01 GMT

BlueRay will not win over HD DVD because BR will not have any porn, and HD DVD will. Simple.

re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

Sugbo — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:39:59 GMT

The Porn Industry choosed HD-DVD as their format. Its Deja Vu again! 20 years+ ago, the Porn Industry choosed VHS over Betamax.

The Betamax format died....

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re: Doom Creator: PS3 A Pain to Work With

HonusWScruggs — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:02:28 GMT

20 years ago people couldn't get porn over the internet.